http://blog.youthrights.org/2008/04/10/why-candice-lightner-isnt-helping-to-prevent-drunk-driving/ Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:27:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 http://blog.youthrights.org/2008/04/10/why-candice-lightner-isnt-helping-to-prevent-drunk-driving/#comment-666 One and Four » Blog Archive » MADD’s Drinking Age Strategy (or lack thereof) Sat, 19 Apr 2008 15:29:38 +0000 http://blog.youthrights.org/2008/04/10/why-candice-lightner-isnt-helping-to-prevent-drunk-driving/#comment-666 [...] Stefan had an excellent response to her comment. Also, Marty Beckerman wrote up a good reaction to it on Radar.Maybe MADD does have the right strategy. If their people (or former people) are going to get on national television and stupidly insult all of America’s armed forces (past and present) then it is probably best that they don’t show up to debate us. The more people realize how low their opinion is of Americans, our troops, and our youth, the more people will realize MADD is out of touch and completely wrong on this issue. [...] [...] Stefan had an excellent response to her comment. Also, Marty Beckerman wrote up a good reaction to it on Radar.Maybe MADD does have the right strategy. If their people (or former people) are going to get on national television and stupidly insult all of America’s armed forces (past and present) then it is probably best that they don’t show up to debate us. The more people realize how low their opinion is of Americans, our troops, and our youth, the more people will realize MADD is out of touch and completely wrong on this issue. [...]

]]> http://blog.youthrights.org/2008/04/10/why-candice-lightner-isnt-helping-to-prevent-drunk-driving/#comment-664 National Youth Rights Association - Age of Reason: the NYRA Blog Sat, 19 Apr 2008 14:35:38 +0000 http://blog.youthrights.org/2008/04/10/why-candice-lightner-isnt-helping-to-prevent-drunk-driving/#comment-664 [...] Stefan had an excellent response to her comment.  Also, Marty Beckerman wrote up a good reaction to it on Radar.Maybe MADD does have the right strategy.  If their people (or former people) are going to get on national television and stupidly insult all of America’s armed forces (past and present) then it is probably best that they don’t show up to debate us.  The more people realize how low their opinion is of Americans, our troops, and our youth, the more people will realize MADD is out of touch and completely wrong on this issue. April 19th 2008 Posted to Drinking Age [...] [...] Stefan had an excellent response to her comment.  Also, Marty Beckerman wrote up a good reaction to it on Radar.Maybe MADD does have the right strategy.  If their people (or former people) are going to get on national television and stupidly insult all of America’s armed forces (past and present) then it is probably best that they don’t show up to debate us.  The more people realize how low their opinion is of Americans, our troops, and our youth, the more people will realize MADD is out of touch and completely wrong on this issue. April 19th 2008 Posted to Drinking Age [...]

]]> http://blog.youthrights.org/2008/04/10/why-candice-lightner-isnt-helping-to-prevent-drunk-driving/#comment-624 kholmes85 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 04:47:41 +0000 http://blog.youthrights.org/2008/04/10/why-candice-lightner-isnt-helping-to-prevent-drunk-driving/#comment-624 I totally agree. When I saw this debate on the Mike and Juliet Show, I almost fell out of my chair. I was absolutely appalled at Ms. Lightner’s behavior. Mr. Koroknay-Palicz made some rather valid points, however he was cut off abruptly and boorishly by Lightner and her unimpressive arguments every time he opened his mouth. Getting drunk drivers off of the road is a notable cause and would probably be more effective if the interest groups involved, such as MADD, opened their ears to other suggestions and ideas. The last time I checked, fatal drunk driving accidents still occur at a high rate. In my opinion, this evidence points to the conclusion that arguing the same worn out solutions is not working. One gentleman on the panel continuously argued that the solution lies in enforcing the laws we already have because we “really haven’t been doing that.” Well what the hell have we been doing? When laws are enacted, they are enforced, that is just the way it goes. There will always be people who just do not care. In my opinion education is much more beneficial to young drinkers. The idea of lowering the drinking age and training more responsible drinkers makes sense and I wish that Mr. Koroknay-Palicz could have clarified his point a little more without being interrupted by a woman who’s been arguing the same points since 1984. And her comment or shouting fit rather, about the young men and women defending our country made me sick and was inconsiderate and ridiculous So, it is not okay for eighteen to twenty year olds to drink because their brains are not fully developed? If brain development is really that significant of a factor in the legal drinking age, then our country seriously needs to reconsider the drafting age. I would think that fighting in a war zone would be much more damaging to the human mind than drinking a few beers. Men and women in the military are subjected to things that impair them emotionally, mentally, and sometimes physically for the rest of their lives. I think that this is a much more substantial issue than young adults making poor decisions when it comes to driving. If a nineteen year old wants to come home from Iraq, after seeing his buddy killed in an explosion, and drink a beer, I do not think the argument against that should be that his brain is not yet cognitively developed. I think that people who serve in the military and die for the United States of America should have every single right and privilege offered in this country regardless of their age. I totally agree. When I saw this debate on the Mike and Juliet Show, I almost fell out of my chair. I was absolutely appalled at Ms. Lightner’s behavior. Mr. Koroknay-Palicz made some rather valid points, however he was cut off abruptly and boorishly by Lightner and her unimpressive arguments every time he opened his mouth. Getting drunk drivers off of the road is a notable cause and would probably be more effective if the interest groups involved, such as MADD, opened their ears to other suggestions and ideas. The last time I checked, fatal drunk driving accidents still occur at a high rate. In my opinion, this evidence points to the conclusion that arguing the same worn out solutions is not working. One gentleman on the panel continuously argued that the solution lies in enforcing the laws we already have because we “really haven’t been doing that.” Well what the hell have we been doing? When laws are enacted, they are enforced, that is just the way it goes. There will always be people who just do not care. In my opinion education is much more beneficial to young drinkers. The idea of lowering the drinking age and training more responsible drinkers makes sense and I wish that Mr. Koroknay-Palicz could have clarified his point a little more without being interrupted by a woman who’s been arguing the same points since 1984. And her comment or shouting fit rather, about the young men and women defending our country made me sick and was inconsiderate and ridiculous So, it is not okay for eighteen to twenty year olds to drink because their brains are not fully developed? If brain development is really that significant of a factor in the legal drinking age, then our country seriously needs to reconsider the drafting age. I would think that fighting in a war zone would be much more damaging to the human mind than drinking a few beers. Men and women in the military are subjected to things that impair them emotionally, mentally, and sometimes physically for the rest of their lives. I think that this is a much more substantial issue than young adults making poor decisions when it comes to driving. If a nineteen year old wants to come home from Iraq, after seeing his buddy killed in an explosion, and drink a beer, I do not think the argument against that should be that his brain is not yet cognitively developed. I think that people who serve in the military and die for the United States of America should have every single right and privilege offered in this country regardless of their age.

]]> http://blog.youthrights.org/2008/04/10/why-candice-lightner-isnt-helping-to-prevent-drunk-driving/#comment-613 News » Blog Archive » Why Candice Lightner isn’t helping to prevent drunk driving Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:24:51 +0000 http://blog.youthrights.org/2008/04/10/why-candice-lightner-isnt-helping-to-prevent-drunk-driving/#comment-613 [...] Solo Mother wrote an interesting post today on Why Candice Lightner isnâ��t helping to prevent drunk drivingHere’s a quick excerptOn Monday morning, NYRA’s executive director, Alex Koroknay-Palicz, appeared on Fox News’s Mike and Juliet Show. [...] [...] Solo Mother wrote an interesting post today on Why Candice Lightner isnâ��t helping to prevent drunk drivingHere’s a quick excerptOn Monday morning, NYRA’s executive director, Alex Koroknay-Palicz, appeared on Fox News’s Mike and Juliet Show. [...]

]]> http://blog.youthrights.org/2008/04/10/why-candice-lightner-isnt-helping-to-prevent-drunk-driving/#comment-612 I Dream Awake » Blog Archive » They Join Because They Aren’t Developed Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:10:32 +0000 http://blog.youthrights.org/2008/04/10/why-candice-lightner-isnt-helping-to-prevent-drunk-driving/#comment-612 [...] And for blog reaction, Age of Reason has a good post: MADD, and Lightner herself, have been making us think for years that teenagers are deliberately irresponsible with alcohol and that, if given the freedom to drink, would disregard the sensibilities imparted upon them and use the freedom recklessly. Now we are to believe that people under 21 will, in fact, do whatever they are told? In typical fashion, NYRA’s opponents are having us believe that teenagers are at once rebellious and malleable, at once recklessly independent and firmly under the thumbs of their parents and elders. [...] [...] And for blog reaction, Age of Reason has a good post: MADD, and Lightner herself, have been making us think for years that teenagers are deliberately irresponsible with alcohol and that, if given the freedom to drink, would disregard the sensibilities imparted upon them and use the freedom recklessly. Now we are to believe that people under 21 will, in fact, do whatever they are told? In typical fashion, NYRA’s opponents are having us believe that teenagers are at once rebellious and malleable, at once recklessly independent and firmly under the thumbs of their parents and elders. [...]

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